[captioning made possible by democracy now!] amy: f from the democratic national convention in philadelphia, this is democracy now! >> [crowd chanting -- bernie] you.anders: thank thank you very much. that wasie, bernie -- the chant on the opening night of the democratic national

convention. senator bernie sanders is greeted by over three minutes of applause before giving the closing speech of the night when he repeated his endorsement for hillary clinton. mr. sanders: i serve with her in the united states senate and know her as a fierce advocate for the rights of children, for women, and for the disabled. hillary clinton will make an outstanding president, and i am proud to stand with her tonight. amy: earlier in the night, bernie sanders supporters repeatedly disrupted the convention by chanting his name nearly every time clinton name was mentioned. we will speak with two guests, benjamin jealous, who served as a sanders circuit that gave a speech last night on the convention floor and announcing his support for hillary clinton, and green party presidential

candidate jill stein, who is has urged sanders to join her on the green ticket. come to see the necessity for independent third parties to actually move his movement forward. that would be a game changer if he made the case of that he has come to build the green p partys a political voice of that. amy: all that and more, coming up. amy: welcome to democracy now!, democracynow.org, breaking with convention: war, peace, and the presidency. i'm amy goodman. the democratic national convention opened in the wells fargo center in philadelphia monday a midst an ongoing scandal over the released dnc e-mails and public divisions between clinton and sanders supporters. on monday morning, protesters

booed and heckled dnc chairwoman debbie wasserman schultz at a florida delegation breakfast, yelling "shame, shame," and carrying signs reading "e-mails." wasserman shultz has resigned in the wake the wikileaks' release of 20,000 e-mails, which show the dnc worked to discredit and defeat bernie sanders. the fbi has launched an investigation into whether russian spy services were behind the hack. baltimore mayor stephanie rawlings-blake took over wasserman schultz's role of gaveling in the opening of the convention monday afternoon. meanwhile, bernie sanders' delegates booed sanders himself at a delegate meeting monday afternoon when he called for supporting hillary clinton. mr. sanders: we have got to defeat donald trump. and we have got to elect hillary

clinton and tim kaine. >> [crowd boos] amy: among those to try to quell the "bernie or bust" movement monday was comedian sarah silverman, who appeared on stage at the dnc alongside al franken. as the crowd shouted "bernie, bernie," silverman tried to shift the chant to "unity." she thenen chastised sanders ' supporters. >> unity, unity. >> hillary, hillary. >> can i just say, to the bernie or bust people, you are being ridiculous. amy: finally, following prime-time convention speeches by first lady michelle obama and massachusetts senator elizabeth warren, senator sanders took

and doors to again hillary clinton. mr. sanders: hillary clinton will make an excellent president, and i will stand with her tonight. amy: but on the convention floor, disunity was on full display. sanders supporters sported shirts reading "hill no." others taped their mouths shut, with the word "silenced" written in marker on the duct tape. this is oregon delegate sandra jafarzadeh. >> i cover my mouth with sign on it, and the reason i said that is because super did not represent the voice of the people. they were supposed to represent the voice of the middle class, the voice of the 99%, and they failed. amy: we'll host a debate on the

choice for sanders supporters with green party presidential candidate dr. jill stein and former ncaap president ben jealous later in the broadcast. outside the convention center, protests continued for a second day. at least 50 people were briefly taken into custody by police during a mass sit-in outside the convention center monday. the demonstration dubbed "democracy spring" was a testing or britt lobbying in congress. at least one journalist was arrested attempting to cover the protest. police arrested telesur journalist abby martin as she tried to access the blocked-off area. she says she was following the police's instructions when an officer grabbed her, tore her dress, and handcuffed her. she was released hours later. meanwhile, hundreds marched to demand a moratorium on deportations and the closure of the berks family detention center in pennsylvania. this is one of the protesters. >> went it means to be -- what

it means to be undocumented, the same crisis people facing here as u.s. citizens. basically, you do not have any rights. you do not have a political voice or the right to vote. people come because they want to live the american dream. many times, people are put in poverty and violence, and then they come here and face more violence. it will never end. it does not make sense. it is immoral. and i think the right thing to do, because this will go down in deportationso s stop and end this cririsis already. amy: in japan, a knife-wielding man killed 19 people and wounded atat least a dozen near tokyo on tuesday. japanenese police say the attack took place in the city of sagamihara at a facility for people with mental disabilities. the man appeared to have been a former employee of the facility, and the victims were all

patients there. the suspected attacker turned himself in at a local police station and was charged with murder. police have not yet offered a possible motive for the attack. in germany, officials say a syrian man who blew himself up outside a concert in germany sunday night had declared allegiance to isis. the 27-year-old man was killed and about a dozen people were wounded in the blast. police say they found bombmaking materials inin the man's apartment, along w with a videof the man pledging s support to te group. police described the alleged bomber as having legal and psychiatric troubles. they saiaid he had arrived i in germany two years ago, but had been denied asylum. in britain, more than 10,000 people have signed a petition demanding the british parliament "hold tony blair to account" for the country's participation in the 2003 iraq war. british law requires the government issue a formal reply to the request. there have been renewed calls for blair to face trial after the release of the chilcot report earlier this month, which presented evidence blair had

misled britain in making the case for war. in south korea, protests against the deployment of a u.s. missile system continued for a 12th straight day. residents of song-ju, southeast of seoul, have held daily demonstrations since their city was announced as the location for the missile base two weeks ago. the south korean government says it needs the missile system to counter threats from north korea. u.s. troops would be deployed along with the missiles. these are two of the protesters. >> it will not only further worsen the relations between the groupic of korea and the but also negatively affect the situation in northeast asia and push south korea to the brink of war. therefore, we must oppose it. >> if it is deployed, there will be u.s. forces. i have h heard about scandals involving u.s. troops in our country. so as a mother with daughters, i

am deeply worried and sad. amy: russia has warned of "irreparable consequences" if the missiles are deployed. china has also said the missiles would threaten stability on the korean peninsula. in mississippi, a u.s. navy sailor h has been charged in the murder of 25-year-old transgsgender woman dee whigham, who was found stabbed to death in a hotel room saturday. the alleged killer is 20-year-old dwanya hickerson, who was in training at mississippi's keesler air force base. police say they are investigating the murder as a possible hate crime. dee whigham had recently begun her medical career as a nurse at a medical center in hattiesburg, mississippi. at least transgender have been 15 murdered this year, following a record of more than 20 killings in 2015. and chris leday, the man who posted a facebook video showing the police killing of alton sterling by police in baton rouge, louisiana, says he still hasn't been allowed to return to work. three weeks ago, the day after posting the video, leday was arrested and shackled when

--, jailed, and ultimately charged for outstanding traffic fines. now, officials at the dobbins air force base in marietta, georgia, where he works as a hisnician, are saying that arrest has kept him from coming back to work. here is a video. are you sorry you posted the video of the police killing of alton sterling? >> not at all because the main thing i wanted to do was try to help sterling get justice and use my platform to put these thoughts on display. i think it was an atrocity and they handled it wrong. it is a clear-cut case of murder, in my opinion, even though i am not an expert. i saw his son crying on television, and that really broke my heart. i have three children. amy: to see our whole interview, go to democracynow.org.

and those are some of the headlines. this is democracy now!, democracynow.org -- we are breaking with convention: war, peace, and the presidency. i am amy goodman. juan: and i am juan gonzalez. welcome to our listeners and viewers. it has been a tumult was 24 hours here at the opening of the democratic national convention in philadelphia. the convention began one day after democratic national committee chair debbie wasserman schultz resigned following the release of nearly 20,000 e-mails revealing how the democratic party favored hillary clinton and worked behind the scenes to discredit and defeat bernie sanders. onon monday mornrning, protestes booed and heckled wasserman schultz at a florida delegation breakfast. boos]owd amy: hours later, senator bernie

sanders spoke about the e-mail scandal in a meeting with his delegates. sanders: as i think all of you know, debbie wasserman schultz resigned yesterday as chair of the dnc. [cheers and applause] mr. sanders: her wrecking -- her resignation opens up the possibility of new leadership at the top of the democratic party that will stand with working people. amy: later in the meeting with his close to 2000 delegates, the room erupted into boos when the vermont senator repeated his support for hillary clinton. mr. sanders: we have got to defeat donald trump.

and we have got to elect hillary clinton and tim kaine. >> [crowd boos] sanders: brothers and sisters -- amy: supporters of sanders chanted "run run run" and "bernie or bust." the tension continued on to the floor of the democratic national convention when it was gaveled open hours later. democracy now! was there at the opening gavel of the convention. the 47thby call democratic national convention to order.

>> stephanie rawlings blake, the baltimore mayor, not debbie wasserman schultz, the chair of the dnc that has resigned, has gaveled the democratic national convention into order or the first day. >> i actually live in baltimore city. i was so proud to see stephanie rawlings blake is the gavel down for this exciting convention. i think it shows that we're moving forward with the community in strengths, just like we do in baltimore. amy: can you talk about the controversy around debbie wasserman schultz, the e-mails that came out, 20,000 of them, and how it suggested that the dnc was clearly on the side of the hillary clinton, no matter who you support? isi would say that what interesting is that in that debate or in that discussion, no one is talking about the fact that bernie never identified

himself as a democrat until he decided to run for president. so that is all i have to say on it. it is over. let's move forward. -- bernie]hanting amy: the chair of the democratic national committee is trying to speak. people are booing. people are chanting hillary. there is chaos in the california delegation. >> my name is mark maloof, and i bernie sandersor and congressional district five in california. the reason why we are booing tim kaine is we would prefer a much more progressive candidate to unify the party against donald trump. is something the delegation is very divided. people are chanting hillary, and

other people are saying bernie, and many people holding up "ban tpp" signs. >> although it is very divided, i am not one of the so-called bernie or bust, so i plan on voting for the ends of desk for the eventual democratic nominee. but i do not know if that is the case for many people in this audience. tpp]hanting -- no >> i am from north carolina. the time is now to stop the tpp. come upt have the tpp in a lame-duck session of congress. not disrespect a man who fought for your civil rights and thought for the people. you lost. we would work with you, but you are not respecting our people and you are not respecting

others, and you want to have the floor the whole time, and that is just wrong. people would be with you, but you are disrespectful, and you are being bratty and acting out. that is not what america is about. did not hear, i her. i am trying to stay positive, and i live in a democracy. and i know i'm fair trade deals ruin our country up at millions of people out of jobs. the trash our environment. they will invade our security. and we do not know the entire thing because it is shrouded in secrecy. >> my name is katy roemer here at i am a registered nurse, a member of national nurses united. i from california, congressional district 13 as a delegate. i think this is what democracy looks like. i'm incredibly proud to be here. we have been with senator

sanders from the beginning, endorsing him. i am glad that finally in american politics, we are sharing the fact that there is not necessarily agreement on all the issues. amy: and your thoughts on tim kaine? has a few good things about him, but the reality is that tim kaine has not been a friend of labor. and i am a working woman, a union member, and tim kaine has not been a friend to the labor movement. well, he has basically not been friendly to us. if you support fast-track for .pp, you have got a problem because that is an absolute attack on organized labor in this country. >> my name is nancy kim, delegate from los angeles, california, a millennial. we are saying no to tpp. nobody a magnitude that

knows about. people are not talking about ap this will effect our planet, our families, our people. ,n a nutshell, over 5000 pages 30 chapters, and only six chapters is about trade. the rest is about corporate domination. it is basically an end to democracy and an end to humanity. it is not about a cult of personalities. it is just a person running for office like bernie sanders or hillary clinton, but it is about the issues. these issues are not just words on a paper. it is real. so we're here on day one. it is not even a day and i have lost my voice, because i'm here to do whatever it takes to bring justice and for people to know the truth. people want to know the truth. even hillary clinton people will love bernie sanders. amy: that report from the convention floor with special thanks to john hamilton. when we come back, we will speak

with dr. jill stein, who is running for president with the green party, running on the green party ticket. she was the green party's 2012 presidential nominee. ben jealous will also be with us, former naacp president, bernie sanders surrogate who spoke at the convention last night in favor of hillary clinton. this is democracy now! stay with us. ♪ [music c break]

amy: that is "bridge over troubled water" by simon and garfunkel. simon also sang the song when he performed at the dnc the night after he was introduced by longtime sanders supporter and comedian sarah silverman and

clinton backer senator al franken. this is democracy now!, democracynow.org -- we are breaking with convention: war, peace, and the presidency. i am amy goodman with juan gonzalez. as we turn back to the opening night of the democratic national convention -- >> today is our day to begin to unify so we can defeat donald trump. and i am looking forward to joiningg hands along with all of us to take back the senate, stategreat local or change makers, defeat trump and make hillary clinton president of the united states. juan: that was ben jealousus, former president of the naacp am adjusting the dnc last night. ben jealous is a bernie sanders surrogate and spoke of the convention monday night. we're also joined by dr. jill stein, who is running for

president on the green party ticket. she was the green party's 2012 presidential nominee. night lastas quite a night. ben jealous, you gave one of the major addresses. people are used to hearing you explain why hillary clinton should not be the nominee, why it should be bernie sanders. but you have a very -- but you had a very different message last night. >> we came through the e primar, and now we have 105 days to keep a madman out of the white house. we know what happened in 2000. the reality is that we cannot afford to end with having any rock war because we used the white house and give it to somebody who should not be in there, as we did with bush. you go through a primary, come into an inventition -- the convention, and you come through campaign to hold onto the white house, and keep a neofascist from becoming president. juan: what do you say to those sandnders performers who feel that, in many reflects, hillary

clinton is more hawkish when it comes to issues of foreign policy, even more than donald trump in some respects? hasou look at what trump directed towards people in this country, there is no reason to think that he will not do the same thing when he is actually in him a when he has his finger on the button. he clearly seems to have some sort of love affair going onon with putin. personalityll the characteristics of some of the worst dictators and tyrants we have seen around the world. but the reality is here that he will also destroy voting rights, women's rights, workers rights. he will have a supreme court that will take us back very quickly. great damage has been done to the country. quite frankly, my work, as you know, my family am a much of it

is in wewest baltimore, and communities like that suffer who thed depending on president is. but who the president is does not matter, a and we cannot a ad to go through george w. bush on steroids. amy: well, dr. jill stein, green party presidential candidate, what is your response to that, that we cannot afford to see a repetition of bush or, as ben jealous calls donald trump, a madman? >> i agree. donald trump is a very dangerous person. he says extremely despicable, reprehensible things, but at the same time, hillary clinton has a track record for doing absolutely horrific things, for expanding wars and the likes of libya, for example, there could hardly be an example of the more catastrophic war, which has been more problematic for increasing the terrorist threats. finger on the nuclear button, i

worry very much about the war that hillary clinton would like to start in syria with the no-fly zone against a nuclear arms power in the form of russia. and in terms of racism, the immigrant deportations that hillary has approved of and has supported are equally horrific, whether it is against blackck people or muslim people are latinos, it is not acceptable for anyone. in fact, hillary played a major role in creating the refugees, the waves of refugees, particularly coming out of honduras into this country where she supported the deportation of women and children and, inin fa, the night raids going on under .he obama white house further, let me say that i think it is so important for us to have unity to stop donald trump,

and it is important to point out that the most powerful way to in fact,ld trump was, sabotaged by the democratic party and by hillary clinton by way of stopping bernie sanders' campaign, as he comes up a and many others have pointnted out, and it is so true historically, we know this from nazi germany, it is important we have unified front and a strong progressive coalition in order to stop neofascism. it is not just donald trump. we are seeing it in europe and in other countries, particularly south u.s. the problem is not donald trump alone. the problem is policies of neoliberalism, of austerity, deregulation him and of nafta, which hillary clinton has promoted to putting another clinton and the white house, unfortunately, is not the answer. it will only fan the flames of the right wing extremism that donald trump represent spirit if we want to see donald trump, it

is important that we rally and trulyd around a productive c campaign. llary clininton represents the opposite of that. my campaign represents the continuing agenda of the bernie sanders campaign. stein, when we had you on the show, this is after it was we're hillary clinton would prevail, you are offering the possibility for bernie sanders to move over to the green party. ofe there any kinds discussions that occurred between that time and now? also, what do you make of some sanders supporters -- we had norman solomon on the program yesterday, who said he is not going to vote for hillary clinton in california. but in battleground states, he understands the necessity to vote f for hillary clilinton. what is your response to that kind of tactic or approach from some sanders supporters? >> let me say that i think there is more reasons than ever for

bernie sanders to move over. as for the e-mail revelation, and the corporate media is characterizing this as they said bad things about bernie -- they did not just say bad things, the sabotaged his campaign. there were smear campaigns, in addition to other evidence of not counting votes, the super delegates and super tuesday. but it is clear that the illusion going on between the big media, the dnc, and between hillary's campaign, so these back,nives stuck in the absolutely outrageous and underhanded techniques that were used against bernie's campaign. we are encouraging them to actually repudiate his endorsement of hillary clinton and consider coming ovover and exploring with the green party how we can build this strong, unstoppable, unified movement. in terms of the safe state strategy, in my view no state is safe in an age with the climate

is in meltdown. we have heard from the national oceanic administration recently, and we just got an "oh, my god" report from the and arctic, which reports will be out soon, but this is a verbal report saying that we can expect as much as nine feet of sea level rise by 2050 and as we have a dramatic turnaround. under the democrats, we saw a massive increase in extraction and increase in the rate at which of the dioxide and methane are going up. hillary clinton was one of the major proponentnts to increase fracking around the world. we should not rest easy with donald trump. we should not rest easy with hillary clinton. we should not rest easy with a voting system that tells us we only have two choices. we could enact choice of voting in any legislature across the state and take the fear out of voting, but democrats will not pass it because they rely on fear to intimidate voters. they are not your friend.

they do not deserve your vote. amy: dr. jill stein, you remind me of ben jealous. he was not saying that is the problem with the democrats. he was saying that is the problem with hillary clinton, and that is why you supported bernie sanders. the pivot you are making now -- is it just about donald trump? and how hard is it, just honestly, as you start to -- i want to say that last night, there was a period on the convention floor where every time one of the speakers said "hillary clinton kimco people chanted "bernie sanders, bernie sanders." what about thahat? >> we try to go into a conventionon together, andnd pee show u up as they show up. the list be honest, if hillary was running for mayor, congress, or senate, i might be supporting

her. there are a lot of things we absolutely agree on. some seats in cocongress and the senate. you start at the presidency to get more money from the party. you get 5%, and you can get more money from the party. ,n 2000, that was the iraq war and how much did that cost us and cost our children and the future? to not responsibility invest in fantasies but to do hard work of organizing, and the real hard work is in the streets once you get somebody in office. we do not elect presidents thatt led change happened for us. we want to leticia and who will make it easier for our movements to make change happen. frankly, over here about the green party is when somebody is running for president. we never hear about them running and congress. i wish i did. but the reality of the green party at work often time joins with people who we do not

typically agree with because they have a different system and are much more strategic and much more effective, and that is totally different. that is what bernie sanders and that side of the democratic party is doing. i agree that we can have a different system, but you know what, we have the system that we have. i think when the community that you are most connected to can afford for this to be lost or that to be lost, i live in a black community that has been devastated by attacks on its rights, devastated by mass incarceration, and it is my spots ability to get real results for real people and form real people's lives. i cannot play games or have fantasasies. one coax you were shaking your head. i wanted to add my question. the green party has been around for decades now. it has won some local elections.

come on. level,ut at the national the percentage support for the party has barely gone up at all. why do you feel that has not caught the kind of support here in this country that grereens he in e europe? >> well, there is no doubt we have a voting system, as well as a system of press and the base and so on, which essentially removes any knowledge that there is any -- the reason people do not hear about what the green party is doing is because there is a complete corporate media blackout on what we are doing. you can look at mayor dale mclaughlin in richmond, california, who did incredibly innovative things as an eight-year mayor, turning him in it are main on its head and using it against the banks in order to seize underwater mortgages and preserved the homes of families threatened

with eviction and for closure come a or with suing chevron, which was extremely dangerous, the up, sent 5000 people to hospital, massively reduced police violence and deaths at the hands of police -- an exemplary mayor. you do not hear about that. you do not hear about mayor jason west in new york who actually went to jail as the first official, a mayor, to actually officiate over gay went to jail and ordered to perform this marriage is. so we see greens actually breaking through. we have hundreds of people in office. we run hundreds of candidates. in fact, ballot access rules require us to rent a presidential candidate in order to get on the ballot for lesser offices, as well. i would think back to the campaign of eugene beaver avenue won,gene g. bevs, he never

but he helped raise up the fifit at the community level, got hundreds of people, and he ran over and over again. amy: he ran for president from jail. >> that is right, and many times before he went to jail, too. initiating from the grassroots up, taking office at many levels of government, including essentially at the top. but we live in a uniquely oppressive time politically right now. the green party is the only -- in fact, who was called a spoiler during segregation? it was the party, actually, during the time of slavery -- let me finish my thought, it was the parties of abolition that were called spoilers for standing up to challenge, and they came out of nowhere over the course of a few years. all other independent parties in this country have been wiped off the political map. you can look at the labour and freedom,

socialist parties -- none of them have been able to survive even as a national party. and that is why we are all collaborating on the umbrella of the green party, because we're the one opposition party that has managed to survive the smear campaigns and the fear campaigns that have taken place as politics have become more oppressive and more regressive. and to those who would say silence political opposition, that actually is tyranny. the u.s. goes to war. we bomb countries that eliminate political opposition. instead of trying to silence the voice of political opposition with which real democracy depends, we should be embracing choice voting. pressure your legislature and pass this right now. it would take them 36 hours to do it. we do not have to -- the other point here is that the american public is leading the charge. they're the ones rejecting these candidates and these political

parties, saying that the two candidates we have now are the most untrustworthy, the most disliked, and who are the pundits to tell them, to tell the american people that you are ?eing thrown under the bus just support these candidates of the political establishment to do more of the damage. remember, you do not feed neofascism. neoliberalism will create more neofascism feared we have the potential not to split the vote but to flip the vote. there are 42 million young people with no way forward, who are trapped in student loan debt, about which immigrants have had nothing to offer. by simply getting the word out that they can come out and actually win this election, and not only win it, to cancel student debts, like we did for the crooked bankers and those on wall street, we can end the student debt and end police

violence. these are all solvable problems. even when we had two democratic houses of congress, what did they do? they bailed out wall street. they interacted all of the above, which is basically on stereroids.ill hillary clinton is certainly as dangerous as donald trump your drug obama initiated the new nuclear arms race, spending $1 trillion. we should nonot rest easy withth either candidate. this is a time for us to stand up. in the words of alex walker, the biggest way people give up power is by not knowing we have it to start with. this campaign is actively susupported by many members of e african-american community, like cornel west, the say their community cannot afford to sit back and let themselves be thrown under the bus. we must establish our own power. if you have to lose an election

to establish your power, you have to do that. but simply by allowing hillary clinton and the democrats -- it is absolutely the wrong thing to do. amy: ben jealous? >> look, fool us once, shame on me. fool us twice, shame on you. excuse me -- there are a lot of things we agree on. but talking about fantasies and the vision of the future, we cannot deny the facts of the past. george w. bush got into the white house and al gore lost by about 900 votes in florida. that went back and looked at the voters, 60% of them had gone for gore if nader was not on the ballot. help up can you make the argument in that case, al gore with the choice of lieberman as running mate, that he lost the election? >> this kills me.

was not aoe lieberman good choice for vice president. when it gets to this factor, we project like it had no effect, and it did. and when you have a leader -- yes, we need third parties. and i would defend the right -- i have gone to jail in multiple states defending people's rights to participate. i believe there can be third parties. i fought for one choice voting. is what you do is view start with the presidency, and you do not think about the consequences. for you to sit here and suggest people should vote for you in swing states is irresponsible. the reality is that if trump is in the white house, we talk , wet the different stakes can go through the polling and all of that, but we will also talk about the role of the green party. if you guys actually going there and, yes, neoliberal,

neofascist, and their green party, let's be honest, voting for a green party in a swing state helps the neofascists. ay: click at the polls for minute. you have the polls indicating , nbc poll, clinton 39%, trump 40%, libertarian presidential candidate terry johnson 10%, and green party presidential candidate till dine at 5%. cnn saying you have got this latest hole, trump at 44%, clinton at 39%. gary johnson at 9%. jill stein, 3%. at the votes..ook i and organizer. i deal with specific voters. we c can abolish the death penay in a state, and we go out there with a strategy and usually get it done. i've been in six states for six

years, tough issue. amy: dow it is on the democratic platform. >> absolutely, and you do not come to the people of the pie during the review come to the people with a plan. i pushed big, bold dreams all the time, but i will not waste your time unless i know we have a good chance of winning. let's play sides here on the grgreen party, the next presidet of the united states, it is not going to happen. so let's talk about for our families how we get things better. i would love to get progress yard by yard, but inches at up to yards. the reality is that winning in the congress and the senate, we can talk about strategizing about how to get greens into federal office, but starting with the presidency? again, in a swing state, a vote for a green party will help the neofascists right now, and we have 105 days and we cannot mess with that. juan: talk about the narrative that has developed in terms of the sanders movement, the

willingness of african-americans and latinos and such large numbers to vote for hillary clinton in the primary, which is reflection of backwardness, a lack of understanding of so many african-american and latinos about their actual interests, and your sense of how bernie sanders tried to explain in his speech last night the unities that he has with hillary clinton, at the same time recognizing that he has start's differences with her, but urging his supporters to back her. jill? >> libby just say first, you ben mentioned that it is important to think of the past and we cannot disappear the past. hillary clinton cannot despapair the record of the past. fool me once, shame on you.

me. me twice, shame on hillary clinton has a track record of locking up americans, deporting immigrants, for serving ththe interest of wallll ststreet, being funded by wall street, and the war profiteers. let's not pretend that hillary clinton's track record offers up any hope. what about people in congress and the city? >> but look at where opposition parities are. it is a political contest that has been extremely opposed to opposition parties. the libertarians are a corporate sponsored party. i regard the green party is a true opposition party because we do not take money from organizations, lobbyists, super pacs. we have the unique ability to uphold that agenda and whatever label you put on us, i do not think that a magic -- i do not think that matters to the american people. the american people do not like the label of democrats and republicans.

they become minority parties. the labour party was established with four more infrastructure and funding, support for labor. it has been wiped up the political map. for oppositionit politics picture we give them a pass at the level? absolutely not. we do not need another neoliberal in the white house. this pretense very much for the question, which is, are we going to have a real debate? it is not just people of color, not just latinos. it is the american people who deserve a real discussion, not only a right to vote, but a right to know who they can vote for. my campaign has come up in opposed virtually without any corporate media coverage. we have tripleled our numbers fm about 2% about two months ago to as high as even 7% and the most reason cnn poll, and that was without any help from corporate

media. can we doubled at again to get into the race? i think there is a very good chance we can hear it i would urge to go to support our campaign, if only for the debate. if you wipe out third parties, you also wiped out gary johnson. if you tell us to basically go away because we are an inconvenient truth -- juan: [indiscernible] >> and this is how you do it, by breaking into the political dialogue, otherwise we're essentially wiped out, eliminated from dialogue, even while we are leading the charge. greens are involved in the social movements, as well. amy: we are taking a break and we'll come back to this discussion, a very interesting one and one that is happening all over them is certainly one happening on thehe floor of the democraticic conventntion. interestingly, i spoke to a number of delegates who say they were weighing what to do,

weighing whether to support hillary clinton or to support a third-party candidate am above the delegates would not say that to me on camera, supporting jill stein, for example, saying that they feared if they did express support for a third-party candidate, they would have their credentials stripped as a delegate. >> that would never h happen, and i would go to jail just off that. amy: we will continue the discussion with ben jealous, former naacp president, bernie sanders surrogate e that is now saying support hillary clinton and the major presidential election. dr. jill stein, green party presidential candidate. stay with us. ♪ [music break]

you" byread desatisfaction. this is democracy now!, democracynow.org, the war and peace report. i'm amy goodman. this is our special coverage, "breaking with convention: war, peace, and the presidency. i am with juan gonzalez. and our second hour of expanded coverage during the republican conventition last week in cleveland and this week the democrats in philadelphia, we're going to have a debate between the former labor secretary and the pulilitzer prize winning journalist chrisis hedges. but t right now, we are spending

this hour with former naacp president, ben jealous, who was a bernie sanders surrogate but spoke on the convention monday night saying at this point he would throw his support to , with bernieon sanders saying the same. dr. jill stein is also with us, running for president on the green party ticket. she was the green party's 2012 presidentialal nominee. i am amy goodman with juan gonzalez. juan: i have a question and i was hoping heart of it you would be able to respond to it when bernie sanders spoke last night, it was a long presentation, but he went into the detail of why he felt that there had been enough of, that his movement has been able to achieve significant changes in the democratic party platform, what he felt were the unities now between him and hillary clinton, versus what trump up represented. i am wondering your response to that speech. >> bernie is really clear. i am still bernie sanders'

surrogate man we're still building this evolution to get up we are progressive spirit bernie is an organizer, and i am an organizer. we make tough strategic decisions are you can deliver the best results for families in this country. what we saw w bernie do less nit was to get people to take stock of how we transform this party. people in the room realize that tent they have transformed, the , it is now the party one of the most progressive in history. and that is because of the influence and the fight, quite frankly, that we brought to that process. superdelegagates, we have had influence for decades. i said with reverend jackson on sunday here we were in church to

get a he was clear, the progress we have made against superdelegates will add up to more chance than what he would ever do. amy: explain what happened, explain the superdelegates. agreement have is an that we will go through our process, and it literally says "shall," so it is a process with an obligated outcome, which is to reduce the number of superdelegates by about two-thirds. 200, something like that? >> it would be governors, congress people amy: is this a promise? >> this is a promise. in the minority, sometimes you have to negotiate. that is all you have. and the other ones will be essentially turning to pledge delegates. they will not have to be apportioned as the states were apportioned. it is a big deal.

it is the same thing we went through in the movement to abolish the death penalty. we had one victory in 1972 that was turned around and 1976. someone talks about how progressives sometimes struggle with each other. we are all family. some of us are inside and some of us outside. we have been in the trenches for a long time together. a national coalition said we're going to go to estate by state strategy, incrementalist. you know what we have done now, we have abolished the death penalty in about 20 states. that is how you get changed to add up. that is what bernie sanders is dodoing. saying, yes, hillary a and i actually agree on some things. we agree that this country is better for children. we agree on increasing the inclusion of women into our

society. she is a fierce advocate for women and for chchildren. we now agree on the tpp, granted it did not start out there. there was a lot of things when he was hanging out with j edgar hoover that we do not agree with him on. at the reality is that we are pushing her, too, but also holding her accountable. if there is anybody in that room that feels like bernie s sander, four years from now, we had been betrayed, we would be a very different force to be reckoned with. but t the reality is that we, as progressives, do n not just hava response ability to our ideals, we have a responsibility to people. we need real change, a bernie sanders understands that the way to get real change in this moment is to simply push for the best of the two viable choices we h have and then n hold them accountable. and that is what we are doing, while electing progressives at the local level. amy: i cannot count the number, ondreds, of "ban tpp" signs

the floor last night. >> and both candidates said ban tpp. >> they may have said it, and hillary clinton easily moved from one camp to the other. but to have made progress in a nonbinding, voluntary platform re, to my mind, buyer bewa here. i live in a state that has had a great democratic party for a long time. extremely neoliberal, extra party actions and legislation. i would not look to the platform to be the marker of having made progress. and it is very clear, and what is not in the platform, you know, the transpacific partnership -- the fact that the platform committee and which hillary clinton's delegates dominated, the fact that they ban fracking, to go against the transpacific partnership, when hillary has adopted positions that are

somewhat in favor of that? the platform committee would not adopt it. castsmind, it really great doubt on hillary's positions. look at children come the welfare was destroyed by the clintons. amy: 10 seconds. wechsler get what it did to living wages in haiti, pushing it down to a miserable 40 cents an hour. she's a friend to appropriations before she is a friend to women. amy: dr. jill stein, green party presidential candidate. naacpalous, former president and bernie sanders surrogate, and he now gave the convention speech last night saying, as bernie sanders did, supporting hillary clilinton. that does it for our broadcast. i will be speaking this week in and provincetown. friday night, martha's vineyard saturday night. check our website at democracynow.org.

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